I want to vomit in terror.

"Frank Grimes" (FrankGrimes)
10/25/2013 at 23:51 • Filed to: None

DISCUSSION (24)

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:54

Someone will ride his/her ass just to be a troll, you know.

POD > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:54

Maybe it's a ruse to get people to give the M3 space. Lets hope for that. If not, I feel for that poor transmission.

TheBaron2112 > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:55

Hey, if you're gonna learn, you might as well learn on something fun.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:55

Looks like girl hand writing.

MtrRider Just Wants Doritos > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:56

Kinja'd!!!

dogisbadob > Frank Grimes
10/25/2013 at 23:56

Why? There is nothing wrong with learning stick, and you have to start somewhere.

And he's being non-bimmerlike at all, you know, alerting the people around and not being an asshat.

Frank Grimes > dogisbadob
10/25/2013 at 23:58

Who is going to think of the tranmission! The transmission!

TheOnelectronic > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 00:02

Eh? Maybe take a few thousand miles off the clutch's life, but it's not that bad.

I learned to drive stick in an E46 M3, and my S4 has so far taught two people.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 00:04

Learning manual in an M3? That will be costly...and dangerous...

cbell04 > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 00:11

Can we please reintroduce the use of shame in our culture? Seems like no one has any anymore. Understand they are learning but so did I and a billion others. I wouldn't have wanted a billboard notifying the world while I did.

rabbitman > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 00:18

There ain't no hills in Texas.

Montalvo > cbell04
10/26/2013 at 00:22

This is not the first time I have seen this and to be honest it probably is a good thing. It is just a heads up for the people right behind them. I would want to know that the person ahead of me would be competent on a hill start or something. Getting a little extra breathing room never hurts. Its almost like the novice marking on the back of a car in sanctioned racing, a street equivalent wouldn't be that bad of an idea.

Montalvo > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
10/26/2013 at 00:25

Considering that you can pick up an E36 for less than 10k I wouldn't think it would be that costly. Plus if it does go bang there is always the option of replacing the gearbox with something a little more updated.

Frank Grimes > TheOnelectronic
10/26/2013 at 01:04

So you miss a shift and grind up third.. that tranmission is toasted.

legory > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
10/26/2013 at 02:00

I learned in my bugeye WRX. The challenge was turned up, and I wouldn't have wanted to learn on anything but that, given my knowledge now.

Performance cars' clutch slipping-points are way trickier to master than a "normal" manual car. My WRX's clutch slips for a quick second, and pretty far off from the bottom of the floor. So learning on a normal car probably wouldn't have trained me as well as my own car.

TheOnelectronic > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 02:31

Miss a shift? I am not sure what exactly that means. Do you mean de-clutching before you're in gear? I don't particularly see that destroying a transmission. If it did, there wouldn't be a whole lot of manual transmissions left.

Birddog > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 04:15

Being able to see what's behind you is overrated anyway. Especially in a car you're not familiar with.

Pure87 > cbell04
10/26/2013 at 09:39

The one thing that made me nervous when I first started driving stick was when someone pulled up right behind me at a stop light on a steep hill. I'd get so nervous about rolling back and hitting the car behind me that each start ended in either a stall or a burnout for a while. This just lets the person behind them know that there is a possibility that the M3 might roll back on them if they are too close and that the M3 might stall and take a little time to restart and set off. Nothing wrong with that in my book.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur
10/26/2013 at 11:18

And then if they hit them when they stall on a hill or are struggling to get the car going in the rain, it does make it look better for the person learning since, in all fairness, they let you know.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > dogisbadob
10/26/2013 at 11:25

Yeah, but giving a novice an M3?

Frank Grimes > Birddog
10/26/2013 at 11:26

Yes good point.

Frank Grimes > TheOnelectronic
10/26/2013 at 11:33

Nope not what I meant.

And what if you are partially in gear let off the clutch and hit the throttle and shear off a crap load of gear teeth? Or do not push in the clutch enough and jam the shift lever into gear destroying synchros? Or what if one were to be stoppped and rev the crap out of the motor put it in gear and pop the clutch? The ways to destroy a transmission are diverse and many.

TheOnelectronic > Frank Grimes
10/26/2013 at 15:33

I guess I don't know what "missing a shift" means then, but those other things sound pretty idiotic. Like, if you're the sort of person who is going out of your way to learn stick in an E36, you're probably not going to do things so obviously wrong.

Granted, I've never driven one, but I doubt the transmission is vague enough that you can't tell if you're actually in gear.

Justino6969 > rabbitman
10/26/2013 at 16:44

Seriously. I adjusted my handbrake and had to drive like 15 minutes to find a hill to test it on.